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Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« on: February 19, 2017, 10:35:52 PM »
It has but one switch, no jumpers and, of course, no documentation.

I'd appreciate some pointers to relevant setup information on the software for this version. A search on Google and on this forum turns up nothing.

Thanks.
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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 10:53:11 PM »
Is it the board shown in this post?

http://benboxlaser.us/index.php/topic,1383.0.html

That board is good to go.  Just flash your firmware.  Nothing more needed.
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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2017, 04:32:25 AM »
If you have a non-TTL laser it needs to be connected to the "motor" output.

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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 06:50:53 AM »
It has but one switch, no jumpers and, of course, no documentation.

I'd appreciate some pointers to relevant setup information on the software for this version. A search on Google and on this forum turns up nothing.

Thanks.

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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2017, 09:27:35 PM »
The board does look like the one in your picture, nottingham82.
I suspect the problem is I have been trying to run it with Win 10 and it ran only once (steppers moved in both axis) but without control of the laser (always on).
Before I found out that Win 10 is a problem in this application, I ordered and have now received a 'real' Arduino Nano which I will use. going to move to a XP laptop when I get time to play with this engraver.

It isn't clear to me if the software that appears to modify the USB port is necessary with a 'real' AN. That will be an easy test I think.
Thanks to everyone for your help, I look forward to reading the SE documentation.
It would be a great help, I think, if every member would list their boards and the software they use to get these units operating. Lots of information out there but it is almost useless to someone new to this level of little or poor information from the supplier.
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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 12:20:20 AM »
The board does look like the one in your picture, nottingham82.
I suspect the problem is I have been trying to run it with Win 10 and it ran only once (steppers moved in both axis) but without control of the laser (always on).
Before I found out that Win 10 is a problem in this application, I ordered and have now received a 'real' Arduino Nano which I will use. going to move to a XP laptop when I get time to play with this engraver.

It isn't clear to me if the software that appears to modify the USB port is necessary with a 'real' AN. That will be an easy test I think.
Thanks to everyone for your help, I look forward to reading the SE documentation.
It would be a great help, I think, if every member would list their boards and the software they use to get these units operating. Lots of information out there but it is almost useless to someone new to this level of little or poor information from the supplier.

i have this board on my laser and run it on windows 10 which software is not working i use T2L BCL and EleksCAM fine

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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 05:15:51 AM »
Do you both have 64-bit?

I think most of the EleksCAM problems are due to that.

T2Laser works with 64-bit as that's what I develop on and test with Win10 tablet (32-bit).

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 05:36:38 AM »
Do you both have 64-bit?

I think most of the EleksCAM problems are due to that.

T2Laser works with 64-bit as that's what I develop on and test with Win10 tablet (32-bit).

mine is 64bit i have had some issues with BCL but not the others they work fine

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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 10:02:24 AM »
I have Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. I have tried various combinations of software attempting to get the unit to work. Only one time, for a brief period, did I get the steppers to move. I had no control over the laser which was on all the time. I 'think' this was with the 340 software, something I then uploaded with XLoader (GRBL I think) and then Benbox. I was able to move the mechanicals and run a short sample which the system faithfully appeared to follow except the scale was way off and the image was just about the size of the laser beam diameter. But it did work except for no laser control. An immediate attempt to try another image resulted in no movement and after that, nothing worked.

The problem has been, I think, erratic communications between the computer and the Nano. Either it is the supplied Nano or the USB cable (which others have mentioned as a possible problem) or a third problem which is Windows 10 operation of COM ports. I will remove those three possible problems from the setup and retry.

With zero experience with this Elks 2.5 watt system, and a largely undocumented control system, I've tried multiple approaches and have confused my self with what is really needed, Communication mods, firmware and application software wise.
- The 340 chip software I 'think' is only necessary for a non-standard Nano but I'll try it if I cannot communicate with it after I install
   a 'real' Nano.
- The GRBL firmware is, obviously the CNC portion of the firmware but I am not certain which version is necessary for what
   application software.
- The application software, those that I have tried (which does not include any of those which require a license fee) seem to be
   underdeveloped and shaky.

Probably one of the problems is I read and watched too much information and now it has confused my internal knowledge base.

My next action is to install a real Arduino Nano, switch to a known good USB cable and get those possible complications out of the way and switch to a XP-based laptop and not use my Win 10 desktop. Then I'll go back to the original Banggood-supplied files and try them. Hopefully that will happen today.

Thanks for your comments.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 10:27:37 AM »
as my dad always told me, start with the cheapest and quickest solution first.  If it were me id try a new cable, if that didnt work, borrow another computer, and if that didnt work go buy a new nano.   Starting with the cheapest or freeest solution first has saved me lots of money over the years.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2017, 10:36:42 AM »
Already have the new Nano. Yup, the Navy taught me to start simple and work up to the complex.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2017, 11:19:29 AM »
You didn't say if you have tried T2Laser. Install it and use the included Grbl 1.1e firmware (click Upload Firmware from the Machine menu) and you'll be able to verify if there's a hardware or software issue.

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2017, 05:21:10 AM »
I try all the software possible,from benbox to T2,EleksCam,Lasergrbl..................etc
But change the orchestra,not the music.............. :-X
Laser is Always on at the max power.
I try many firmware,included the original included with Elekscam,but it is for Mana,not for Mana Se.
The only sofware that allowed me to engrave something,althoug if result was bad due to laser Always on,was LaserGRBL,with his GRBL1.1
The other mostly only permits to move the axis.
Laser go off only if i press the ON button.
And the issue i notice on the web that is very common on Mana SE user.
I have a desktop with Windows 10 Pro 64bit,and the com port is correctly recognized.
At this point i think that is only question of firmware,and if that i cant resolve soon,i consider to buy a laser module 12v not TTL.
My engraver is the A3 2500mw from Bangood.
Thanks, and I hope you can forgive my imperfect English. ..
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Re: Anyone have any experience with this 'improved' board?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 05:24:04 AM »
It sounds like your output is inverted, if OFF makes the laser on?

That should be easy to fix in firmware.

Did you try the Grbl 1.1e Non-PWM firmware in T2Laser? It's in the custom firmware menu.
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 05:37:46 AM »
No,the laser is alway on,the only way to off it is press the button.
Via software on and off don't take any effect.
I don't try the GRBL 1.1e non pwm,i try it immediately.....

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I try,but nothing change,laser Always on.
In Benbox i try to change laser pin from 12 to 11,but nothin,alway ON

 :-X
« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 05:54:22 AM by roby320d@ »