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CAM software
« on: August 24, 2017, 08:52:51 AM »
You will need some..

This is the most promising so far, I am yet to pay for it as I am still hoping there is a nice open source solution, I find it a little lacking in a few areas.

http://www.estlcam.com/

Mainly .. mill a hole and it comes out smaller than expected ? it may just be a setting I have wrong.
It does not work with grbl I dont think, it expects that you are using a grbl type board or a number of other boards and uploads its own firmware.

The photo shows the settings I am using..




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Re: CAM software
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2017, 09:13:51 AM »
It's not open source. You have to pay for it.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 09:40:48 AM »
That is why I said I am still hoping for a nice open source option.

I am not sure it ever requires payment, mine has started nagging me with a reminder each time I fire it up but it still works.

I will pay for it if I find it does everything I want, the things I suspect are bugs are in fact not and I cannot find a better solution.
It annoys me in a few ways .. ie setting Z probe thickness you have to go into CNC settings each time, sometimes I use a 1.55mm thick pcb and sometimes I use the tool directly, it is annoying to change the Z probe currently. You also have to untick the X and Y prove each time or break your tool as I rarely use it but it defaults to on every time, so it will try and drive 5mm into the bed if I forget to turn it off.


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Re: CAM software
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2017, 09:42:14 AM »
Sorry, I mis-read your statement the first time.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 09:55:40 AM »
Looking for freebie options .. I will likely try these and report back.

http://www.oncreate3d.com/

http://www.opensbp.com/

2.5D Pathcam https://github.com/xenovacivus/PathCAM  open source

2.5D MakerCAM https://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/MakerCAM

3D https://mecsoft.com/freemill/

3D Pycam https://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/PyCAM  ( I have this installed but not visited it lately, quite a learning curve)

3D this one needs openscad files, which is kind exciting for making parts but little use for engraving https://bitbucket.org/kosme/openscad2cnc


and a good video for 2.5D vs 3D  etc  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stcZAIy2xnE


oh .. if you want to visualise your gcode results then the best solution is probably http://camotics.org/  this used to be openscam mentioned above, I also installed this some time back but need to revisit it, it is not simple to use any longer :)


another one might be worth looking at is grblgru

go to the last post on this thread for dropbox download linkie ..

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/uncategorised-cam-discussion/311876-cnc-forum.html





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Re: CAM software
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 11:32:21 AM »
I tried Pycam but never could get it figured out. I did get it to generate paths, but had no control of the direction for the paths. I agree it has a steep learning curve.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 11:39:33 PM »
I've also found this one, maybe someone wants to give it a try:
http://www.vectric.com/products/aspire.html

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Re: CAM software
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 12:35:01 AM »
I eliminated that one as it is a trial version and costs $1500 with no mention of what the 'trial' actually is.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 06:14:33 AM »
Oups! I haven't seen a price and the trial seemed free to download.

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Re: CAM software
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 07:46:01 AM »
I eliminated that one as it is a trial version and costs $1500 with no mention of what the 'trial' actually is.

You beat me to it...I was going to say, their software is very expensive...!!!

Unfortunately, there is very little affordable classic CNC CAM software. I did some research on this about a year ago. 90% of it is not cost-effective for our segment (low cost machines)  :(
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 09:47:47 AM »
No, I think it is only a matter of time though.
The mill itself by the way comes with 2 bits of software, one is an old copy of some quite powerful software that is worse than pycam to come to terms with and seems to be purely 2.5D, I did get some results out of it but it really just wants to engrave from dxf's.
The second bit of software for doing pcbs looked promising, then I found it is the demo version, old, and is limited to only 8 areas on a pcb.

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Re: CAM software
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2017, 12:38:11 PM »
On top of the really high prices a lot of them want annual "maintenance" fees also.

Most of the free stuff is bits and pieces. A piece to engrave, a piece to CAD another for CAM. None of these pieces work well together.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2017, 05:48:27 PM »
Had anyone tried this Easel?
https://www.inventables.com/technologies/easel
Only for 2.5D and it's browser based, but free to use and maybe less complicated than others(?). I don't have the machine yet to test it. It allows svg imports, but I cannot tell if it works with Chinese cncs as well, as they have their own (more expensive) machines to sell.

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Re: CAM software
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2017, 07:32:14 AM »
I've also found this one, maybe someone wants to give it a try:
http://www.vectric.com/products/aspire.html

If all you need is 2D which will nicely do pockets and outlines, then Cut2D from Vectrics is great at $150. It is a subset of their expensive software and therefore is much better than the products built from the ground up for amateurs. It will chain multiple pockets and outlines so you get 2.5D performance. It also allows you to draw basic shapes rather than import DXFs if you want.

I've been using it for years.
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Re: CAM software
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2017, 02:42:51 PM »
Yes, it will mostly be 2D cutting in the beginning. Thank you!