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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2016, 03:49:09 PM »
No, all of that sounds fine.

Please attach the file here so I can have a look at it or email it to me if you do not want to post it here.
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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2016, 04:06:04 PM »
The file was just the start of a nesting box wall top panel that I was thinking about trying to start. The file is attached. I also downloaded Draftsight cad and tried to draw a drawing in it. It came up, but it looked like I had multiple lines in it and couldn't pull it up. This is the AutoCAD file and I believe it is AutoCAD LT 14

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2016, 04:33:46 PM »
I was able to open the file OK in BenCutLaser but saw some things I want to ask you about.

1. The Lines are ***extremely*** small. The horizontal lines are only 0.45 mm long. The top vertical lines are about 0.25 mm high. Is this a mistake or by design?

2. There are several places in the drawing where there are many over lapping lines...see attachment. You need to remove these double and triple lines. There are about 330 Line objects in total in this drawing at the moment.

What percentage of the whole drawing would you say this file, in its current state, represents? 10%, 20%, 50% of the final file?

Once I see your answers to these questions I'll have more comments to make.

Thanks for letting me have a look at it.

It opened fine in LibreCAD which is a free 2D CAD program.

It also opened up fine in QCAD which is also a free 2D CAD program.
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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2016, 04:38:33 PM »
BTW - ***many*** of the lines are over laid by the same line...like the original lines were copied perfectly on top of each other...several times.

You can select a line and delete it and still see another one in the same place...delete that line and still another one and on and one until finally you delete the last line. Of all the 'doubled up' lines I saw, there were 5 copies of each line, all one on top of the other. So there is a huge amount of extra lines in the drawing.

This drawing may have 100 to 200 doubled lines? It needs a lot of clean up.  Where did you get this file from?

BTW -- just a tip to help you: while you can make this kind of design with Lines, its much better to use Polylines for this kind of a design.
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2016, 04:57:58 PM »
That was the one I did in Draftsight which I have never used before, I don't know how I ended up with so many lines. I did a 2nd drawing with just 4 lines, saved it in ASCII DFX and it opened just fine. I sent the wrong file before and have the AutoCAD file attached to this. I think this is the one I did in AutoCAD, it will not open in DS

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2016, 05:04:43 PM »
What about the size of the Lines? Is what I quoted in the size I found correct or is that an error in line size? Are they really that small?
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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2016, 05:07:19 PM »
That was the one I did in Draftsight which I have never used before, I don't know how I ended up with so many lines. I did a 2nd drawing with just 4 lines, saved it in ASCII DFX and it opened just fine. I sent the wrong file before and have the AutoCAD file attached to this. I think this is the one I did in AutoCAD, it will not open in DS

This file also has 319 Line objects...is this the right file?

This file also has the 5 line over lays.

BTW I downloaded DraftSight and installed it. It opened your latest posted .dxf file ok.
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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2016, 06:20:15 PM »
BCL can only support .dxf files. This is the standard for CAD files. I'm going to rely on figuring out a way to convert PDF file drawings over to workable .dxf files.

As an FYI -- it is not a small task to 'add support for another file format'. There is a massive amount of code needed to support a new format. Each format is different thus all the dxf code would be unusable for the pdf file format. In BCL now, at least half of the code that is there is related to supporting .dxf files. It's just a huge amount of code.

A PDF to DXF converter would be far easier to do than for me to spend another 3+ months to code support inside BCL for PDF. I really do not want to go down that path. I think I can find a workable PDF to DXF converter of some kind.
I know it would be like a total rewrite to support another file format, way too much work and time. A good reliable PDF to DXF converter that the Bencut Laser would accept would be perfect. LOL, in no way am I trying to add to your work load, you are busy enough.
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2016, 06:24:48 PM »
Yeah, I have not yet found a .NET DLL file that I can hook into BCL. So at the moment, my thoughts are that I will have to find an outside converter...either a stand alone app or better yet, on online converter.
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2016, 08:11:48 PM »
I still have those two .net libraries and if I get some time I'll try to combine them into one library for converting the PDFs into DXF. Then I can just give you a dll to add to you project.

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2016, 08:15:25 PM »
One of the libraries doesn't work in VS2010 so I'll have to get VS2015 and upgrade the one library built in 2010.

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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2016, 08:16:30 PM »
That would be awesome...thanks...I'd love to try out that .dll
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Re: RC Modelers
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2016, 08:27:21 PM »
I'll take a look this next week and see what the effort is going to look like. It might take a minute or two lol.

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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2016, 04:08:34 PM »
Took longer than expected to start working on this but I did manage to spend some quality time with the APIs.

Most of the time so far was spent in the PDF reader/writer Library and a little bit in the DXF library.

I need to start collecting example PDFs to use in my testing. I'm going to make some with Inkscape but if anyone is willing to donate some as well that would be cool.

This is going to take a while to do but it's in progress now.

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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2016, 04:14:03 PM »
This is a .PDF to .DXF file converter you're making? As a .DLL file?
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